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Tony Merida: Welcome to “Churches Planting Churches: A Podcast on the Theology and Practice of Church Planting.” I’m your host, Tony Merida.


Planting a church is an enormous funding. Church planters pour themselves out for the sake of God’s flock and the misplaced. This results in a proper private connection between the church planter and the church, which may make management transitions particularly difficult. Not solely is it emotionally expensive, it’s troublesome on a sensible stage. However as church planters, we need to see the gospel impression the approaching generations. This can be a very important a part of planting wholesome church buildings. We don’t need to see the church we’ve planted wither when our time is completed.

Due to this fact, we should deliberately pave the best way for the following pastor. That is implied in Paul’s directions to Timothy when he says, “What you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses, entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.” An important a part of planting a church is guaranteeing that devoted males will be capable to lead the church after we’re gone. However how precisely can church planters do that?

Im excited to have two brothers with me on the podcast as we speak who’ve lately performed this very factor. Blaine Boyd and Luke Humphrey are pastors on the Arabian Peninsula. Guys, welcome to the podcast.

Blaine Boyd: Thanks, Tony.

Luke Humphrey: Nice to be right here.

Merida: So, we’re operating this podcast. I want the listeners might see our nice expertise that we’ve proper now. They’re sharing a lapel mic that’s stacked up on a stack of cups, so it may be excessive sufficient to allow them to share it. I imply, it’s epic expertise, isn’t it?

Boyd: That is good. That is good. Yeah, state-of-the-art.

Merida: Yeah. You are feeling like a church level, all proper?

Humphrey: State-of-the-art.

Humphrey: Yeah, that’s proper.

Boyd: Proper.

Merida: So, Blaine and Luke, simply let’s start by telling us about your self. The place did you develop up? How did you come to religion? And clarify to us what the Arabian Peninsula is.

Humphrey: Yeah. So, I used to be born right into a Christian household. We moved round far and wide rising up. It wasn’t till about center college the place we settled into the Indianapolis space. I grew to become a believer, I believe, fairly, fairly younger, so about 7 years previous. My dad and mom faithfully taught me the gospel. I grew up enjoying “David and Goliath,” and listening to “Veggie Tales” and all that. But it surely wasn’t till going to an Easter play on Good Friday the place I spotted that it was my sin that put Jesus on the cross. Sin wasn’t this summary factor, it was my sin. And so, there was an altar name, and I used to be too scared to go down. However I talked to my dad about it, and he made positive I knew the gospel, understood the gospel. And I prayed to obtain Christ. And at the moment, I imagine my life was modified. It wasn’t until college that actually fell in love with the phrase, although, when it comes to having a revitalization expertise and…

Merida: The place did you go to highschool?

Humphrey: I went to Purdue College. So, yeah, I obtained concerned in an ideal native church there, was discipled, that’s the place I fell in love with the church and actually felt referred to as to ministry.

Merida: Superior. Superior. Inform us about your personal journey there, Blaine.

Boyd: Yeah, I grew up in a Christian dwelling however rejected Jesus early on, by no means adopted him. And was training legislation in my late 20s, was pursuing the world full on, got here to my very own existential disaster of types and have become a seeker trying to find fact. And that led me to the jungles of Costa Rica, the place I picked up a Bible, and God powerfully modified my coronary heart by His phrase, and I’ve been following Him ever since. And He’s led me to the Arabian Peninsula.

Merida: Wow. So, discuss to us somewhat bit in regards to the journey to the place you’re at now from the, you realize, conversion and following Christ household, your complete expertise to get to the place you’re at.

Humphrey: Effectively, after college for me, I obtained married and knew I wanted pastoral coaching. And so, I used to be accepted and moved to Minneapolis to check at Bethlehem Seminary. It’s a church-based seminary. And whereas I used to be there, I used to be worshiping alongside my professors and I used to be even working within the world outreach division there. Had a coronary heart for the nation’s but additionally had a coronary heart for the native church, and felt referred to as to pastoral ministry, felt like that was affirmed by others round me. And so, attempting to determine how these two match collectively.

After seminary, I went to do a pastoral residency at Faculty Park Church in Indianapolis, which was an ideal expertise. And it was there that I actually type of minimize my enamel on what it seems wish to be a pastor. And a 12 months into that, I had a buddy, John, who’s my co-pastor within the UAE. He was heading to the UAE to do a church planting residency. And we simply type of reached out to him and stated, “Hey, we’d love to join your guys support team. How do we do that?” And he stated, “Well, we actually need partners. So would you consider moving with us?” And so my spouse and I prayed about it, and we fell in love with the imaginative and prescient for a ministry within the UAE. So we moved in December 2017. We’re there for a few 12 months and a half earlier than transitioning to Al Ain, which is the place we’re at the moment at.

Merida: Now, are you able to simply familiarize the listeners with the Arabian Peninsula? What are we speaking about?

Humphrey: So, the Arabian Peninsula goes to be nations which might be distinctive. So you have got Kuwait, you have got Qatar, you have got Bahrain, you have got the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia. Many of those nations have excessive expat populations, and the governments have granted the liberty to follow faith there, and so you possibly can have church buildings. And English is a unifying language. So these individuals are coming from locations everywhere in the world, everywhere in the 1,040 window, and so they’re speaking in English. They usually’re not capable of retire there, in order that they have to return to their dwelling nation in some unspecified time in the future in time. And so, we’ve had the power to have church buildings there to succeed in out to them whereas they’re right here, however then additionally to equip them to return to their dwelling nations as nicely.

Merida: Wonderful. Wonderful. Blaine, inform us somewhat bit about, type of, how you bought to the Arabian Peninsula, from Oklahoma, proper?

Boyd: Certain. Yeah, I used to be in Oklahoma. After turning into a believer, I type of, in my younger believer conceit, ran from the Bible Belt and located myself in Boston. I used to be in Boston, I used to be going to seminary at Gordon Conwell, obtained attached with South Shore Baptist Church in Hingham, Massachusetts. It was actually at South Shore after I fell in love with the church. I by no means actually understood, liked, cared for the church, nevertheless it was there that I noticed the great thing about what God was doing in and thru His church. It was at South Shore that I believe I obtained type of an affirmation of my pastoral name, and likewise the decision to go plant church buildings. I used to be actually affirmed that what the elders at South Shore noticed in me was somebody who wished to go plant church buildings and somebody who was outfitted and gifted in that method.

And so, we had been additionally related in that church with the Ministry occurring at Redeemer, Dubai. Now, Redeemer, Dubai, is an Acts 29 church that was planted in 2010 by Dave Furman. And so we related with Dave, and people guys introduced me over for a church planting residency. And I used to be simply taking a look at…I confirmed up in Dubai in 2015 with the concept I wished to plant a church someplace on the Arabian Peninsula. I actually didn’t know the place, I didn’t know what metropolis, I didn’t know what nation, however I knew I wished to be in an Islamic context on this multinational cross-cultural context that’s the Arabian Peninsula.

Merida: So, you moved there, you stated, in 2015?

Boyd: Twenty fifteen, that’s proper.

Merida: So, stroll us via day one to type of the place you’re at now. Are you able to try this? Since you’re planting one other church?

Boyd: That’s proper. Yeah.

Merida: And also you’re not an previous man. I imply, we’re not speaking, you realize, nonetheless

Boyd: Thanks, Tony. I really feel you…

Merida: We’re speaking…how previous are you now?

Boyd: So, 38.

Merida: Okay. So, however after planting a church in comparatively brief period of time, for those who moved there in 2015, and also you’re going to plant one other church. So, discuss to us about 15 to current.

Boyd: Yeah, it’s been plenty of change. So landed on the peninsula September, 2015. I instantly began exploring across the Arabian Peninsula taking a look at world cities there, in search of locations the place there’s a gospel want and alternative for a gospel-preaching church to be planted, working with the elders at Redeemer, Dubai, to try to find and have them ship us. And finally, we landed on a metropolis referred to as Al Ain within the United Arab Emirates, a group about an hour and a half out within the desert within the UAE. So, I used to be referred to as to steer a workforce. It was me, my household, and two different households. We moved to Al Ain, and that was in 2016, began constructing a core, began laying the groundwork, making connections, sharing the gospel with individuals. And, actually, issues have moved actually rapidly. The Lord simply labored actually highly effective methods.

We began with about 25 individuals in a front room in 2016, and we formally launched in April 2017. After which in 2019, after I finally would depart the church and move off transition, we had been as much as about 200 individuals on a Friday. Friday is the Islamic holy day, so it’s when individuals have a break day, and that’s after we collect to fulfill as a church. And so, throughout that point, I had had a burden for an additional metropolis on the Arabian Peninsula. And as a community of church buildings of Acts 29 church buildings within the Center East, there was a specific metropolis that many people had been taking a look at as one which had not solely an ideal gospel want, however there appeared to be a possibility rising there for a gospel-preaching church.

And so, I’ll let Luke clarify extra of type of him and John and their strategy of considering via that metropolis as nicely. However simply type of working as a community, we realized that there’s a very alternative there, and that it was actually me and my household that actually felt outfitted and gifted to go.

Merida: Yeah, fascinating. So, Luke, you’re not technically taken over. You’re one of many workforce members?

Humphrey: Yeah, yeah. So, the best way that we’re doing it’s that there have been two of us who’re serving as church planting residence, myself after which John Norris, my fellow pastor at Redeemer Church of Dubai, which planted Redeemer Al Ain. We had been serving as residents and likewise serving as elders there. And so, as we had been praying about reaching this explicit metropolis on this explicit nation, we wished to free Blaine up to have the ability to do it. And so, we each of us transitioned.

One of many issues I actually recognize about Blaine and his management is he didn’t wanna go away Redeemer Al Ain worse off. He actually wished to look after the well being of the church. And so, as we had been speaking, and as we had been praying, it actually appeared finest that two of us would go over. And so, John carries the vast majority of the preaching load. I’m doing a lot of the grownup discipleship and considering via a few of the strategic outreach factors within the metropolis.

Merida: That’s cool. That’s cool. Now, Blaine, this isn’t regular, a minimum of in my circles, in my experiences, although, we clearly see the Apostle Paul planting varied church buildings. However as we speak, you don’t hear so much about guys who plant after which a few years plant once more. So, I’ve a number of questions associated to that. And you could possibly bounce in as nicely, Luke. Do you assume extra guys ought to be doing this simply normally? Simply your, you realize, ideas on that. When do they have to be contemplating it if they should plant one other church? What did you’re feeling you had in place? Clearly, you had good leaders there, different issues to think about?

You talked about one thing that’s very, quite simple, however I believe it’s vital to underscore, and that’s you had been in search of want, like, gospel want, a spot to evangelise, the place we’d like the gospel. So, clustered round all of this problem of you planting once more, there’s…you possibly can riff off of any of these items there.

Boyd: Certain.

Merida: Speak to us about planting once more.

Boyd: Certain. Yeah. And the best way I checked out was actually… We had a community of church buildings that had been actually dedicated, as Acts 29 is, that had been dedicated to planting church buildings that plant church buildings. And we obtained to some extent the place we had the assets in our community to plant one other church in a brand new place and a brand new metropolis that has nice gospel want. There’s no wholesome…there’s no gospel-preaching church on this metropolis, so a possibility was there. We had made some connections. The time appeared to be coming proper with this explicit place. And it was actually a workforce and a group determination. It was truly Scott Zeller, who’s govt pastor at Redeemer Dubai, who first as we had been wanting on the assets that we had, he referred to as and stated, “Hey, I think you may be the guy to go do it, that to go and pioneer into this new place, into this new work.”

After which, simply getting counsel from a lot of gospel associates and gospel companions that I actually respect and actually belief, the extra they proceed to affirm, “Blaine, I think you’re the guy to do this. I think you’re the guy to go pioneer this.” And as that was being affirmed, I used to be getting my very own sense that that was true, that I used to be starting to resonate with what I used to be feeling. I had a burden for this explicit metropolis. I’d had a burden for this explicit metropolis for years, and that was rising. After which I simply have a normal burden to see gospel-centered wholesome church buildings planted the place there are none. And so, we simply type of, all of the assets across the desk. The necessity was there, the chance was there. I believe our household, so myself, my spouse, and my daughter, we felt…my daughter is 2, so she didn’t really feel that a lot about it. However we felt that we had been gifted and outfitted to enter this place and do that work. And so, as we simply type of assessed that and prayed via that with the workforce, it simply grew to become actually clear that that was for us.

And so, I do assume, I imply, I believe one of many questions that we’ve obtained so much, and folks would ask me is like, “Is this too early to leave?” Which is an fascinating query. Like, I often attempt to return to the ebook of Acts and see how lengthy Paul stayed at locations. And never that I’m attempting to assert to be Paul in anyway, however it’s normative within the ebook of Acts for this type of factor to occur. And so, I don’t know that, essentially, it ought to be normative for church planters, in two years after the launch of their church, to transition management and transfer on, however I additionally don’t assume it ought to be uncommon. I believe that we ought to be all the time assessing our presents, the wants which might be on the market, the alternatives already on the market and say, “Should I stay or should I go?”

I believe one of many issues we actually have to be cautious with…the fascinating factor about Al Ain was I wasn’t wanting to depart Al Ain. I used to be blissful, I used to be content material. I used to be having enjoyable doing ministry in Al Ain. I used to be not in search of the following factor. I wasn’t discontent and considering, “Oh, gosh, the city, these people, I just want out of this.” It was fully out of left area, “Say what? Go plant another church?” You recognize, and I believe we must be doing that, like, assessing ourselves. Not in search of methods out, and trying to escape the present scenario we’re in, but additionally defending from simply rising comfy and idle, and taking the straightforward method out and going, “Okay, well, this is where it’s comfortable, so I’m gonna stay,” and saying, “Would I be more fruitful, and would it be more faithful for me to move on?”

And for myself, as I used to be processing that, you realize, one of many issues that I actually wished to see, after which the query I saved asking myself is, “Will Redeemer Church of Al Ain, the church I planted and I’ve been the lead pastor for two years, is that church gonna be just as good or just as cared for? Or, you know, even…and I think this case even further, it has has an opportunity even to thrive more with the new leadership? Is it gonna be in a better place if I move on? Or am I gonna be…or my guess, actually, is that I should pass it on to different gifted people, then I can get to do what I’m gifted at and start a new church, and maybe some people who are gifted in different ways, in administration or otherwise, who can continue to see Al Ain thrive.”

Merida: That’s good, that’s good. Now, plenty of guys plant church buildings, they get a few years in, and it takes a toll, like energy-wise. You felt good, although. Your vitality was good at 38, able to roll once more?

Boyd: Able to roll once more? That’d be a extra fascinating query for my spouse. I informed her, I stated, “You know, two years. I’m gonna burn hard for two years in Al Ain, and then, you know, two years, things will get stable, and I’ll start backing off a little bit, and you’ll get see more of me.” And so, proper about that two-year mark, I got here to her and as a substitute of claiming, “Hey, let’s back off.” I stated, “Let’s go do this again.” You recognize.

Merida: What did she say? What was her course of? She was all in from the start?

Boyd: She’s been all in. She’s so resilient. And she or he simply seemed up. I didn’t know what to anticipate, actually. I stated, “Hey, let’s go take on this new work.” And she or he checked out me and stated, “Hey, this is what the Lord’s doing. I’m in, let’s do it.” I stated, “Hey, do you want even go? Do you wanna go see the city before we do or before we commit?” And she or he stated, “There’s nothing that I will see in a visit to that city that will change my mind. This is where the Lord’s leading, let’s go.”

Merida: That’s good. Luke, what do you see in Blaine that’s distinctive that makes him capable of plant once more? He’s too modest to speak about himself however possibly you could possibly…you realize, as guys take heed to this, as a result of they might be considering the identical factor, “Should I be considering that?” What sort of traits would you say makes this a good suggestion?

Humphrey: Yeah, I imply, Blaine, I do assume Blaine is exclusive. He’s distinctive in each a few of the issues that he’s prepared to let go of that plenty of guys wouldn’t let go of. I actually recognize Blaine is Kingdom-minded. I imply, there’s a singular group of brothers within the Arabian Peninsula, the necessity is so nice. We’re speaking, you realize, locations of tens of millions of individuals with one to no wholesome church buildings. And so, all of us really feel the burden.

Blaine, particularly, although, I believe has been prepared to bear vital price, lack of consolation in an effort to meet these wants, which is absolutely, actually I recognize. So, I believe he’s gifted in his Kingdom-mindedness, gifted when it comes to laying this basis, constructing these relationships, and being prepared to let go, you realize, not proceed to manage them. I believe that takes a certain quantity of religion and a certain quantity of humility to have the ability to try this. So, when it comes to character, I believe, he’s a singular particular person. I believe when it comes to giftedness, he’s a starter. I imply, he will get excited. Lots of guys wouldn’t be feeling after two years that…

Merida: Have you ever performed the enneagram? Have you learnt what the enneagram is?

Boyd: No, I’ve heard of it.

Humphrey: Is {that a} cult?

Merida: You’re too godly to know what enneagram is. Yap, yap. That’s okay. Neglect that, he’s a starter.

Boyd: I’ll begin it.

Merida: Take him on the enneagram.

Humphrey: There we go. However he’s. I believe he enjoys that. I believe he thrives on that. And so, simply with the ability to even see how he’s capable of go from not likely taking his foot off the fuel. He was operating exhausting until the tip in Al Ain, and simply he’s persevering with to run exhausting. And I believe he’s each good at that. After which he’s additionally, like, he… I believe you take pleasure in it. And so, God’s wired him in sure completely different ways in which I do assume are distinctive, and but, I believe, possibly extra frequent than we expect in some components.

Merida: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I believe there’s only a sample. No less than I’m talking as an American Westerner, I believe, type of, I don’t wanna put the blame on Rick Warren. However I believe that mannequin for good or dangerous, you realize, you plant a church, and also you keep a very long time, that’s develop into the norm. That’s the norm the place we’re at, although there are all the time exceptions, proper? To that. But it surely appears to me, in my interplay with church planters, a lot of them are starters, they’re motion creators. They like to, you realize, mobilize, and so they dream, you realize, the imaginative and prescient caster, they will collect individuals, they’ve obtained all these expertise, these intangibles for church planting. They usually do an excellent job, they plant a church, they’re two or three years in. However the norm has been, it appears, to remain there a minimum of for a very long time, proper?

And I’ve thought of it in my very own life, you realize, identical to our church grew faster than I anticipated. It’s wholesome, you realize, and also you type of just like the canine that catches a automotive, all proper? You recognize, “What I do now?” You recognize, “Should I go plant another church?” However there aren’t any fashions for that. Like, there’s…I’m positive there have been periods, and, you realize, maybe, even conferences on it, however few books that I’ve learn are speaking about this. And so, the subject itself is fascinating to me, and I believe it’s essential.

I’m wondering if being cross-cultural for you, in some methods makes it, I don’t wanna say simpler for, say, I am going planting in an American metropolis, the place you see the determined want within the Arabian Peninsula. We clearly have a necessity in America, however we even have church buildings, proper? So, is that desperation? Does that immediate extra of this apostolic spirit of, “Let’s go plant another church?” What do you consider that?

Boyd: Yeah, I believe, presumably, positively. I believe, added to that’s this concept that after I went to the Arabian Peninsula, I did…plenty of guys such as you’re speaking about, “Hey, this city has captured my heart. This city is where I wanna be.” They’re most likely not gonna plant one other church in that metropolis, and type of compete with the church they only planted. However there appears to be an actual reference to metropolis or place or possibly that’s the place they grew up or, you realize, the place they’ve skilled at college or no matter that’s.

After I went to the Arabian Peninsula, there was no affection for the cities, as a result of the Arabian Peninsula just isn’t a enjoyable place to reside. It’s actually scorching. So, the one factor that drew me there was want and alternative that God appeared to be opening the door to plant church buildings on this time. So, due to that, although I liked the ministry in Al Ain, and I used to be related, I liked these individuals, and I’ve expensive friendships that can final my whole life that got here out of that church, I by no means felt like Al Ain was my final dwelling. And so, it was nonetheless, what was driving me, whether or not I used to be in Al Ain or someplace else, was gospel want. And that’s what sort of saved churning me ahead.

Merida: I really like that time period, you realize, gospel want. We have to be desirous about this all over the world as we take into consideration church planting. This can be a nice story, man. It’s a very nice story. How did the church members reply once you stated, “Hey, I’m out of right here, I’m gonna plant once more.

Boyd: You recognize, actually encouraging. It was superb. One of many type of enjoyable issues for me to observe was, we’re such a younger church, many new believers, many child Christians, many individuals who had been Christians for a very long time however by no means been part of a wholesome church. So, we truly had the enjoyment in Al Ain of type of creating individuals’s church DNA, what do they anticipate from a church? And now what they really anticipate is that, “Hey, as a church and as church people, we’re willing to let go of any resource we have, even our lead pastor, to see that the gospel goes forward.” And that actually resonated with individuals. And folks obtained that. So, although there have been individuals who had been identical to embracing me in tears and simply weeping in regards to the lack of the connection, they had been via their tears saying, “This is right. This is good. We’re behind it. We’re so excited.” And so, a minimum of earlier than I left, I used to be given plenty of encouragement. I don’t know what it’s been like since I’ve been gone.

Merida: That’s particular, man, that’s particular. What’s management transition? How does it completely different in a cross-cultural context? You recognize, what’s been a few of the distinctive challenges with that?

Humphrey: It’s so relational. I believe there have been earlier on, and it’s a distinctive scenario, you realize, there wasn’t a niche. Mainly, a part of the plan was Blaine was going to depart. And mainly, when that was introduced, the elders had been additionally asserting that two different guys are gonna step in. And so, there wasn’t a season in between that. However individuals didn’t know tips on how to really feel. For us, individuals weren’t fairly positive, like, tips on how to settle for us as a result of they nonetheless love Blaine and so they nonetheless love Kelly, and so they didn’t wanna present that, “Well, we don’t care for you.”

Folks know tips on how to really feel, lots of people they know tips on how to assume. Particularly in Japanese cultures, it takes a very long time to construct relationships. And…I imply, even within the US, for those who don’t know the circumstances, and unexpectedly a pastor who planted a church leaves after two years, you could be considering, “Is something wrong? Are we…you know, is our church falling apart?” We’re a fairly transient group anyway, the place individuals are available on work visas. And so, lots of people increase some issues. There was some emotion there, however individuals additionally didn’t know precisely what to assume when it comes to, “Okay, ministry doesn’t have to be lifelong in a particular place, there is a need.”

And so, there’s locations the place it tends to be type of put your head down, give attention to your loved ones, focus in your church in your whole life, then seeing their lead pastor say, “Well, we have the opportunity to go here,” individuals had been capable of assume, “Wait, wait, wait, this is good. Like, this is good to be a part of, and we wanna get behind this church plant and even be supportive of this church plant.”

So, it was a blended bag of feelings, and but, we’ve actually appreciated. The church has wrapped their arms round us and the Norris household, and we’re grateful for the way Blaine and Kelly have led in that.

Merida: It’s glorious, it’s glorious. And also you guys are concerned in rising areas with Acts 29, considerably?

Boyd: Appropriate.

Collectively: Yeah.

Merida: Inform us about…so we obtained possibly some listeners on the market proper now. Possibly some guys are even within the Arabian Peninsula, desirous to plant. Speak to us about, you realize, why they need to take into account it, in the event that they wanna take into account it, contacts to make. What are we doing in rising areas on the market?

Boyd: Yeah. Completely, I imply, I believe it is a nice instance of what, a minimum of within the type of Center East a part of rising areas is what’s occurring. It’s an thrilling time. I believe what was actually enticing to this explicit place and this explicit time for myself was, I’m not likely eager on studying languages. I didn’t thrive on Greek and Biblical Hebrew and people sorts of issues. My spouse’s Brazilian, I don’t thrive in Portuguese.

Merida: You converse Lawyer, although.

Boyd: I converse Lawyer, although. It’s somewhat contact of Latin however so…however it is a place the place truly the ministry language is essentially English. And it’s as prevalent as Arabic, if no more prevalent, and so it’s a possibility to return. And the doorways proper now are huge open. In so many of those world cities on the Arabian Peninsula, there’s alternative to go plant church buildings. And there’s partnerships available there. There’s people who find themselves doing it, and we’re a workforce. Like I stated, this complete plan unfolded as a community working collectively, considering collectively, which is absolutely enjoyable. And Luke truly talked about this earlier as we speak, and I’ll simply steal it from him.

Humphrey:Thanks.

Boyd: However you wager. However simply this concept of actually, it’s an instance of a community, a small community. You recognize, there’s about 5 church buildings now, however taking a look at, “Hey, what resources do we have? And how do we take those resources and make sure that more churches are planted, and that the gospel goes forth, and really partnering in that?” That that wasn’t one church making this determination, nevertheless it’s actually a partnership of all of us.

Merida: It’s glorious, it’s glorious. Blaine Boyd and Luke Humphrey, man, management transition, planting new church buildings, Arabian Peninsula. tremendous thrilling. You guys are actually setting an ideal instance, inspiring story. If of us wanna sustain with you, how might they try this? Is that potential? Social media, web site, something like that?

Humphrey: Yep. So our church’s web site is redeemeralain.com.

Merida: Please spell it out.

Humphrey: So Redeemer, after which, alain.com. So, individuals can sustain their emails, remainder of their sermons are there.

Merida: Tremendous. Tremendous.

Boyd: I’m somewhat tougher to maintain observe of. The brand new metropolis I’m shifting into, we’re unsure what safety measures are there and what I must do to be protected and guarantee that I truly get into town. So, I suppose they will contact Acts 29 or one thing like that and join with me.

Merida: Tremendous. Thanks, guys.

Boyd: Thanks, Tony.

 

 

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