Nancy Guthrie and Joni Eareckson Tada start their dialog by reflecting on the primary time they met, greater than 20 years in the past. On the time, Guthrie was studying Tada’s ebook Heaven: Your Actual House, as Guthrie’s daughter had just lately gone dwelling to heaven.
This reminiscence prompts Guthrie to ask Tada what it means to set the center on heaven. Tada does her greatest to take God’s recommendation to put up treasures in heaven, the place she might be with Jesus, who makes it a heavenly place. Tada additionally references Jonathan Edwards’s comment on heaven the place he stated, in Tada’s paraphrase, that all the pieces we do down right here on earth has a direct bearing on our capability for worship and pleasure and repair in heaven. For Tada, which means that daily she will spend money on heaven, belief and obey God, imagine his Phrase, and observe him extra intently.
Guthrie provides that the enjoyment of heaven goes to be many issues, however the Bible says that the final pleasure we’re going to have is being in God’s presence and seeing him nose to nose.
This resonates with Tada as somebody who has been paralyzed for 52 years. Although she appears to be like ahead to having a brand new heavenly physique at some point, she’s most wanting ahead to the brand new coronary heart—a coronary heart free from all sin.
Guthrie then asks Tada if she thinks it’s true that struggling permits the Christian to narrate extra to the sufferings and issues of Christ. Tada says that struggling could be a platform that provides somebody authority to mannequin and talk about pleasure in struggling. When Tada appears to be like at her quadriplegic pals and their belief within the Lord via their heartache and hardships, she listens to what they are saying about their religion.
Guthrie provides that it’s an unbelievable privilege, on the lowest locations of our lives, to sense that God is at work and current in these low locations of life—the work of God on the inside of our lives is being placed on show for the world.
Guthrie goes on to ask Tada how she is smart of assorted theological beliefs about praying for therapeutic and believing that Jesus will heal us. In response, Tada says, we should go to Scripture to make sense of all of it as a result of, sure, on one hand, God desires us to hope for therapeutic. Jesus desires us to be healed within the sense that he despises struggling. He doesn’t take any enjoyment of it. He frolicked on earth eradicating it. But we additionally should take a look at Jesus’s priorities—he’s far more involved concerning the therapeutic of our inward soul, about eliminating sin. God’s core plan in rescuing us is to get us freed from sin, not solely after we first believed and after we prayed to obtain Jesus, as a result of we’re even now being saved.
Guthrie and Tada sing a number of hymns collectively as their hearts are stirred throughout this dialog about struggling, therapeutic, and heaven.