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William Wooden: One of many most important thrusts of the e book is Zephaniah can be a sturdy portrait of the day of the Lord. The day of the Lord most easily put, is the day that God comes. And so when you’re actually wanting to speak concerning the coming of the Lord, the hope that every one of us Christians have on this intense bond of union and communion with Him, that’s what Zephaniah is absolutely all about. The approaching of God. And so in case your hopeful expectation is the approaching of God, then we’ve bought a e book for you.


Nancy Guthrie: Welcome to “Help Me Teach The Bible,” I’m Nancy Guthrie. “Help Me Teach The Bible” is a manufacturing of The Gospel Coalition sponsored by Crossway, a not-for-profit writer of the ESV Bible Christian books and tracks. Be taught extra @crossway.org. I’m in Atlanta at the moment within the workplace of William Wooden, who ‘s assistant professor of Previous Testomony at Reformed Theological Seminary. Will, thanks for being prepared to assist us train the Bible.

Wooden: Hello, Nancy, it’s good to be right here. Thanks.

Guthrie: Will, you’ve been right here at RTS in Atlanta for slightly over a 12 months. Inform us what you had been doing earlier than that that led to being right here.

Wooden:Properly, earlier than that, I suppose was in 2011, moved as much as Philadelphia, pursued my MDiv at Westminster Seminary there, after which caught round to work on the PhD I used to be there a complete of eight years and nonetheless ending up the Ph.D. gotta, you already know, put the interval on that dissertation, be performed right here in a number of months.

Guthrie: Boy, I wager you’re trying ahead to that.

Wooden:Very a lot so.

Guthrie: So what sort of lessons are you instructing right here in Atlanta?

Wooden: Summer time you may say all of the Previous Testomony lessons. On the finish of the spring, I’d have taught all the Previous Testomony curriculum aside from the poet’s class. So all ranges of Hebrew, the Pentateuch class or Genesis by way of Deuteronomy, prophets, class, historic books, the whole lot.

Guthrie: Properly, return slightly additional for me and inform me, how did your love for God’s phrase and your want to show it, the place did that come from in your life, and the way did it develop?

Wooden: So I turned a Christian once I was 18. So I used to be in faculty, and I actually began digging into the Phrase there. And I went as much as my pastor on the time, I used to be like, “Hey, you know, I’ve really got some questions about what’s going on here” and he actually didn’t reply lots of them. So I enrolled on this class at a area people faculty, the place a man instructing simply occurred to be Reformed. And I had no thought what Reformed was, I’d by no means heard of it, I didn’t know something about it.

Guthrie: Had you grown up in church?

Wooden:I grew up in church, yep, however didn’t have you already know, an excellent data of what…

Guthrie:: A seed in religion.

Wooden: …the gospel was. You understand, you pray the prayer once you’re like six, however I didn’t actually know the content material of what the gospel is till I used to be a lot older. And it’s by way of that professor who launched me to guys like Greg Beale and a few others, began studying and grew to find it irresistible and he had me begin instructing some at a Bible research and he goes, “Hey, maybe you should go to seminary.”

Guthrie: I gotta cease you proper right here as a result of the concept you’re a brand new Christian, and also you begin in studying Greg Beale and a few of these different issues, I believe, wow, that should have actually, very early on formed the way you understood how the Bible is put collectively and what its message is.

Wooden: The primary e book I learn, apart from the Bible as a Christian was The Temple and the Church’s Mission by Greg Beale.

Guthrie: Actually.

Wooden: And in order that form of put a love for the Previous Testomony and biblical theology in my coronary heart inside six months of turning into a Christian.

Guthrie: And then you definitely ended up at Westminster, the place Greg Beale teaches.

Wooden: Appropriate.

Guthrie: And also you labored with him. Appropriate?

Wooden: Appropriate, yeah, I used to be his TA for quite a few years there.

Guthrie: That’s superb. All proper. So that you’re working in your dissertation now…

Wooden: Sure.

Guthrie: …which is what drew me to return and discuss with you, as a result of I’m getting right down to there solely being a number of books of the Bible I haven’t coated on “Help Me Teach The Bible,” however considered one of them is Zephaniah. And I perceive you’re engaged on a dissertation on the e book of Zephaniah.

Wooden: Sure. So my dissertation matter is using the Previous Testomony in Zephaniah. So primarily what I’m doing is I’m working by way of the e book, and I’m taking a look at all of the attainable locations the place the Prophet might need alluded to, or possibly even instantly quoted one other passage within the Previous Testomony.

Guthrie: That’s fascinating. I’m considering that for many people as lecturers, we’re fascinated with, “Okay, what am I gonna teach this fall, this spring?” And possibly Zephaniah doesn’t soar to the highest of the stack, maybe as a result of we’re unfamiliar with it ourselves. Maybe we predict it doesn’t actually have a message that may resonate with the folks that we’re instructing at the moment. So are you able to make a case for me as to why I would need to train Zephaniah say to the ladies I’m instructing, or for somebody who’s instructing an grownup Sunday faculty class, or perhaps a youth group, why would we need to open up and train the e book of Zephaniah?

Wooden: Properly, I suppose the primary level is simply the straightforward assertion that if all scripture is God-breathed and worthwhile for instructing, then that features Zephaniah. However possibly even past that, to speak slightly bit about one of many most important thrusts of the e book. One of many most important thrusts of the e book is Zephaniah can be a sturdy portrait of the day of the Lord. The day of the Lord most easily put, is the day that God comes. And so when you’re actually wanting to speak concerning the coming of the Lord, the hope that every one of us Christians have on this intense bond of union and communion with Him, that’s what Zephaniah is absolutely all about. The approaching of God. And so when you’re hopeful expectation is the approaching of God, then we’ve bought a e book for you.

Guthrie: Okay, this is essential as a result of if we’re gonna train Zephaniah, we’ve actually bought to get a agency grip on this idea of the day of the Lord. And it appears to me that the day of the Lord can imply many issues, that it has some preliminary that means, some deeper that means, some extra quick that means after which some future that means, however I’m not saying that very effectively. So assist me with this, somebody doesn’t perceive. So when is the Day the Lord? What precisely is gonna occur on the Day of the Lord? How do you reply that?

Wooden: So that you’re proper that there are some multifaceted features to it. And on the one hand, you may see the Day of the Lord as any day when the Lord approaches His individuals in a means of both judgment or salvation. And so, actually, you may look all the way in which again into the backyard in Genesis Chapter 3, when the Lord approaches Adam and Eve there, that’s form of an preliminary day of the Lord because the Lord approaches Adam and Eve there. And equally, in locations like Genesis 15, the Lord comes to speak to Abraham, talks about his covenant of grace there. For the reason that Lord is coming, that’s in a way a really small miniature model of the day the Lord.

Guthrie: And people we see He is available in each judgment and…

Wooden: And salvation.

Guthrie: …salvation or mercy.

Wooden: Yeah. You’ll usually hear it as you already know, two sides of the day of the Lord or two sides of 1 coin of God’s coming, the place on the one hand, for individuals who flip in opposition to the Lord, who reject the Lord, who don’t humbly undergo him by religion, He’s going to return in a day of judgment in opposition to them. And that’s, you already know, a lot of the content material of the e book of Zephaniah 1 by way of to Chapter 3:8, actually focuses in on at the present time of judgment. However the different facet of it, which Zephaniah has an equally sturdy assertion of in 3:9-20 is on how for individuals who humble themselves earlier than the Lord, who search Him and search His righteousness that may be a wonderful day of worship and salvation for individuals who think about the Lord, particularly religion in Christ.

Guthrie: When Zephaniah initially prophesied to the individuals, and he was speaking to them concerning the day of the Lord, how would it not have been associated to the day when Babylon was going to brush in and produce judgment? Would they’ve eyes to have seen a better day of the Lord coming, or would which were their major understanding of what Zephaniah was speaking about?

Wooden: It’d positively be a each and. The Lord’s coming even elevating up the nation of Babylon in opposition to town of Jerusalem in 586 is a transparent occasion of a Lord coming in judgment in opposition to town of Jerusalem and the individuals of Judah for his or her sins. And but within the e book of Zephaniah, there’s quite a few very clear situations the place he’s not trying merely to what we’d see as a typological day of the Lord, however he’s trying towards the end-time Day of the Lord itself, a complete worldwide, world renewing, within the redemptive sense, day of the Lord. And so he form of telescopes these two issues collectively slightly bit. And telescope, we don’t imply what you search for on the stars, from like a telescopic fishing rod, you already know, the place you pull it out, and there’s a number of issues however then you may press it down and also you might need, you already know, six or seven hyperlinks throughout the area of only one.

Guthrie: Let’s level out a few particular verses, the place we are able to see these. As I used to be studying by way of it there have been a few them I believed, “Okay, that’s clearly a greater day of the Lord than simply when Babylon sweeps in.”

Wooden: Verse 2 of Chapter 1, I believe is a very good occasion.

Guthrie: Proper at the start.

Wooden: Proper at the start. “I will utterly sweep away everything from the face of the earth declares the Lord.”

Guthrie: Hiya. That occurred with Babylon.

Wooden: Yeah, it’s complete, proper? What we do see when Babylon comes is the Lord totally sweeping away the whole lot in Jerusalem. Proper? And so we form of see how that miniature localized model is a day of the Lord, however not the day of the Lord. Proper? So we see it right here in verse 2, that carries on into verse 3, totally sweeping away man and beast, birds of the heavens, fish of the ocean, and reducing off mankind from the face of the earth. You understand, discover in verse 3, what’s {that a} listing of? Properly, that’s the whole lot from Genesis Chapter 1, man, beast, fish, and birds. And also you’ll discover there too, that’s truly inverted from the order of Genesis Chapter 1.

Guthrie: Like a de-creation, coming backwards.

Wooden: It’s form of a de-creation motif. Due to sin and the judgment the Lord, creation is undone in his judgment, that de-creation motif. However then it will get extra explicit from there. So in verses 2 and three, there’s this common proclamation of the judgment of the Lord. However look in verse Four of Chapter 1, “I will stretch out my hand against Judah and against all the inhabitants of Jerusalem.”

Guthrie: There it’s particular.

Wooden: Proper, it will get slightly bit extra particular right here. And we see that very same dynamic by way of the whole lot of Chapter 1, the place starting of verse 4, it focuses in on Judah, 7-9, focusing in particularly on the leaders of the individuals of Judah, verses 10-13, explicit inhabitants of the individuals of Jerusalem there. After which it form of broadens again out once more, starting of verse 17, on mankind universally as soon as once more. So even right here in Chapter 1, you see the Prophet form of begins common, he ends common, however within the center, it’s all concerning the individuals of Jerusalem. He telescopes lately collectively, proper? The tip-time day of the Lord, after which this native non permanent day of the Lord coming in on the nation of Jerusalem or the nation of Judah.

Guthrie: That’s very useful. Possibly we higher return to the start slightly bit. That was actually useful for Chapter 1, however we form of skipped the introduction that possibly after we’re instructing it, we wanna ensure that we don’t skip. And it reads “The word of the Lord that came to Zephaniah the son of Cushi…” I needs to be letting you learn this as a result of you may in all probability learn these names higher. I’m gonna allow you to learn it.

Wooden: All proper. I’ll decide up the place you left off. “Son of Gedaliah, son of Amariah, son of Hezekiah in the days of Josiah the son of Amon king of Judah.”

Guthrie: Okay. So, I might sense, okay, we’re taking a look at a prophet to Judah. It says that he’s a son of Hezekiah. That title rings a bell, in order that makes me suppose, “Wait a minute. It sounds like Zephaniah is in the kingly line and yet he’s being presented here as a prophet in the time of Josiah.”

Wooden: Yeah, so he’s positively bought a royal lineage or almost definitely has a royal lineage.

Guthrie: Why do you say almost definitely?

Wooden: We don’t have have the complete family tree of all of the sons of Hezekiah. Nevertheless it looks as if this can be a clear indication of Hezekiah the King. So some students will cut up slightly little bit of hairs on that, so almost definitely this can be a royal family tree so he does have that kind of heritage.

Guthrie: That appears uncommon for a prophet.

Wooden: Yeah, slightly bit, however you already know, a prophet may be anybody from the covenant group that the Lord calls and offers them this explicit job. We see that in Deuteronomy 18, the regulation of the prophets there, the place the qualification isn’t, “Hey, he can’t be a king, but he has to be a member of the covenant community.” And so Zephaniah clearly meets that qualification of what a prophet have to be. So we’ve one known as by the Lord for a specific job and I believe Zephaniah is an efficient candidate for this explicit ministry, a royal determine, in a time when there’s one other royal determine participating in vital non secular types. You keep in mind the time of…

Guthrie: What occurred to Josiah.

Wooden: Yeah, Josiah is a serious king, similar to Hezekiah was who engages in non secular kind and pursues constancy to the Lord after lengthy intervals of infidelity, consider Manasseh.

Guthrie: Our listeners would possibly keep in mind the story of Josiah the place it’s been centuries, and there are some individuals working within the temple, and so they uncover the scrolls, the Phrase of God. And I believe it’s arduous for us to think about how that might get misplaced within the temple however they do, and Josiah has them learn and he responds in great humility and calls the individuals to repentance, and it begins an enormous change.

Wooden: It does.

Guthrie: So once I learn within the days of Josiah, at the start of Zephaniah, however then it’s instantly speaking concerning the judgment that’s coming, that raises the query in my thoughts, Is that this earlier than the scrolls had been discovered? Is that this after they had been discovered? And Zephaniah is… This is part of presenting the scrolls, these phrases of judgment or? Assist me perceive that.

Wooden: In order that’s the million-dollar query, proper. So…

Guthrie: Okay. At the very least I had the query.

Wooden: So, you already know, there’s a variety of debate about this. There are quite a few references in Zephaniah that seem like they’re coming from Deuteronomy. So for instance, in Chapter 1:13, “They’re goods shall be plundered their houses laid waste, though they built houses, they shall not inhabit them, though they plant vineyards, they shall not drink wine from them.” That’s truly an inversion of some promise, blessings from Deuteronomy, Chapter 6:11. So it appears to be like like Zephaniah may be, you already know, alluding to that passage or equally, trying down in verse 17 of Zephaniah Chapter 1, “I will bring distress on mankind so that they shall walk like the blind because they have sinned against the Lord.” Properly, that’s similar to Deuteronomy 28, 29 and the curses of the covenant which might be proclaimed in opposition to the individuals there. So it appears attainable possibly even possible that the e book would have been found, and Zephaniah is utilizing the e book of Deuteronomy and basing his proclamation on locations like Deuteronomy 28, you already know, the covenant curses which might be outlined there. That’s not definitive. And I say it’s not definitive as a result of a variety of these identical issues we discover in different prophetic books as effectively. I consider the e book of Isaiah has an enormous emphasis on sin and blindness. Or e book of Joshua has the identical proclamation of getting homes you didn’t construct and vineyards you didn’t plant. And so it’s not essentially the case that Zephaniah would have been studying Deuteronomy, nevertheless it appears fairly possible that his prophetic message is on quite a few events derived from locations like Deuteronomy 28.

Guthrie: If we’re gonna make that assumption, okay, they discovered Deuteronomy and he’s working from it, that that is nearly a part of the preaching ministry that goes about that’s calling individuals to repentance that we examine within the story of Josiah?

Wooden: Yeah, I believe so. And, you already know, a part of, you already know, studying of the regulation and the whole lot is that operate, to name individuals to repentance earlier than the Lord. And Zephaniah himself does that in Chapter 2:13 calling them to hunt humility earlier than the Lord, to repent, you already know, earlier than at the present time comes. And I believe that’s an announcement earlier than, you already know, the 586 judgment, however particularly earlier than, you already know making use of it to us, the end-time judgment or possibly even the tip of our personal lives. And so yeah, there’s this clear connection I believe between the proclamation of God’s regulation and the necessity for us to repent as a result of we’ve all breached that regulation and to show to the Lord and search Him in humble submission. One other factor that Zephaniah actually cameras house is satisfaction. You understand, he has a variety of statements in opposition to the prideful. He does it in Chapter 3, we’ll get to that right here in just a bit bit. However the name to repentance for Zephaniah is a name to humility. And actually, my working title proper now for my dissertation comes from Christ’s assertion in Matthew 24, “Those who exalt themselves will be humbled, those who humble themselves will be exalted.” And that is an occasion primarily seen when? You understand, on the day of the Lord, you already know, when he comes, and people who have pridefully exalted themselves in opposition to the Lord are humbled in His judgment, however those that have humbled themselves earlier than the Lord are exalted and introduced into a spot of union and communion with God forevermore.

Guthrie: So when you had been going to a church, I think about, since you’ve studied Zephaniah a lot you’ve in all probability dragged this out right into a 12-part sequence or one thing.

Wooden: Seventeen.

Guthrie: Oh, you actually have taught it in 17 components? Critically?

Wooden: I’ve, sure.

Guthrie: All proper…

Wooden: Or I’m proper now truly at a neighborhood church right here.

Guthrie: You’re in the midst of it.

Wooden: I’m in the midst of it.

Guthrie: Properly, for these of us who possibly can’t stretch it out into 17, are you able to give us some options? Possibly we’d wanna… It’s three Chapters. What did I learn? It’s like 115 verses? Is that proper?

Wooden: Fifty-three.

Guthrie: Fifty-three, yeah. So lower than 100 verses. So if we’re going to show it, possibly we might wanna do only one message. So I need you to speak to us about possibly what our focus can be on that. Or it’s three Chapters, so possibly two, three or 4 messages and what you’d cowl in these.

Wooden: I suppose possibly we are able to discuss concerning the knowledge of doing it in numerous methods first. So there’s some knowledge within the one message strategy. I’ve heard a variety of pastors doing it and so they’ll do one thing known as like 12 and the 12, you already know, one thing like that. They’ll have a 12-week sequence going by way of the 12 minor prophets. And to a tee, everybody that I’ve talked to that does that, what’s their objective? It’s to get individuals a broad orientation to all the minor prophets. Which if we’re sincere, it’s not essentially the most learn a part of the Bible, you already know. Jonah is fairly correctly learn, however a lot of the others not a lot.

Guthrie: That’s definitely been the case for me most of my life. I imply, as a result of when you don’t have an excellent grasp on the historical past of the Previous Testomony, and positively the divided kingdom and the exiles and return, then you may’t make sense of the prophets. And a lot of it simply appears so international to us. It’s form of straightforward to only undergo a prophetical e book and discover little components you want, it’s the components that provide hope as an alternative of judgment and simply form of deal with these and ignore the remainder.

Wooden: Yeah, precisely. And so there’s some knowledge to that and kind of orientating individuals to all of the books. I wouldn’t wanna cease there as a result of there’s additionally a price in making an attempt to dig slightly bit deeper. So when you’re doing that, and I stated, Zephaniah, you might do it in possibly three sermons. Three good classes can be Chapter 1, being one. I say that as a result of the way in which it begins and ends with that common declaration of judgment has a reasonably clear window there that it’s a single unit. Then I might in all probability do Chapter 2:1 to Chapter 3:8. And the explanation for that’s as a result of I believe these sections are all joined collectively. So Zephaniah, Chapter 2, it begins with a name to repentance, which is, I believe, is a very good strategy to begin earlier than you go into extra judgment. So you have got a sermon of one thing actually focusing in on God’s righteousness, his holiness, a declaration of judgment Chapter 1, name to repentance to 2:1-3. However then it will get proper again into judgment in 2:5 and following and oracles in opposition to quite a few nations there. However then he shifts in Chapter 3:1-Eight and provides an oracle to town of Jerusalem.

Guthrie: Once I was studying by way of Zephaniah, particularly Chapters 2 and starting of three, such as you’re speaking about, you get a really geographical image that he’s…

Wooden: You do.

Guthrie:…drawing. I felt like he was nearly standing in Jerusalem, and strolling round in a circle pointing his finger in any respect the nations round them on whom God was gonna deliver judgment, however then it comes dwelling to proper the place he’s.

Wooden: That’s precisely proper.

Guthrie: Is {that a} sense of what it’s?

Wooden: Yeah, it’s. So for example that in verses 5-7, it’s an oracle in opposition to the Philistines, that are the nations to the west of Jerusalem. And verses 8-11, Moab and Amon which have been to the east. Cush in verse 12, to the south. After which in the end, you already know, the large kahuna of their day, Assyria, which is the nation to the north. And so it’s this kind of geographic illustration, which reinforces the common proclamation of judgment from the previous Chapter, you already know, all mankind, of all the face of the earth. And then you definitely’re proper. What he does subsequent, is he turns it inwards to form of the middle of the compass. And, you already know, once I was preaching on this textual content, I form of likened it to the waves, you already know, you’d see at a baseball stadium or one thing like that. You understand, it’s going throughout and also you’re hitting all people, and you might in all probability hear the crowds of Jerusalem actually getting excited. “Get those Philistines, get those Ammonites. Assyria, they’re going down.” After which he simply turns to them, and he has extra to say, in opposition to town of Jerusalem than any of the opposite cities. In truth, it’s nearly the extent of all of them mixed, you already know. It’s eight verses right here, devoted to Jerusalem and what’s 11 to the opposite groupings altogether, even Cush simply will get a single verse.

And so he actually hammers dwelling that concentrate on Jerusalem, illustrating that common facet once more. And, you already know a really neat factor about Zephaniah, this e book is absolutely interwoven collectively rather well. He ends in 3:8, the exact same place that he resulted in 1:18. You understand, 3:8, the tip of this judgment in opposition to Jerusalem, so the Lord talking he says, “In the fire of my jealousy, all the earth shall be consumed.” After which in 1:18, the common proclamation in opposition to all mankind, “In the fire of His jealousy,” so Zephaniah is talking of the Lord right here, “All the earth shall be consumed.” An nearly equivalent phrase.
The geographical illustration of Zephaniah 2 or Three is one other illustration of the common day of the Lord that’s coming in Zephaniah Chapter 1. And so I might do 2:1 to three:Eight as a single unit. If you happen to’ve bought 4 sermons or 4 classes to do in it, do Chapter 2 after which do 3:1-8. That’d be an excellent breakdown there as a result of then you may actually hone in on Jerusalem right here, after which 3:9-20 is absolutely the proclamation.

Guthrie: That’s the half you look ahead to.

Wooden: Sure, that’s the half all people loves.

Guthrie: Yeah, precisely. Inform us why.

Wooden: Once I point out Zephaniah, most individuals that I discuss to in the event that they know a lot about it, they only run to Zephaniah 3:17.

Guthrie: Sure, precisely. That’s the one sermon or discuss I can actually keep in mind and establish being from Zephaniah.

Wooden: Yeah, I name it the John 3:16 of the Previous Testomony.

Guthrie: And also you’re referring to this verse 3:17, that claims, “The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save. He will rejoice over you with gladness, He will quiet you by his love, He will exult over you with loud singing.” That’s actually excellent news.

Wooden: It’s.

Guthrie: So what’s one of the simplest ways to strategy Chapter Three starting in verse 9 by way of the tip?

Wooden: I might strategy it when it comes to what different passages within the Previous Testomony might need related imagery. And considered one of them, starting in 3:9-13 is definitely a reversal of the Tower of Babel.

Guthrie: Present us what you imply.

Wooden: So keep in mind the Tower of Babel story, it occurs, it’s simply after the flood narrative. The Tower of Babel is when mankind assembles on the plains of Shinar, and so they search to construct a metropolis with a tower extending up into the heavens. What they’re actually making an attempt to do is ascend up into the heavenly locations, safe themselves up in heaven, primarily to deify themselves. And the Lord comes down in judgment, and what He does is 2 issues. He mixes their language, confuses their language, and He scatters them throughout the face of the earth. And spot what the Lord does right here as an reverse of that. Proper? The Lord right here, He says “At that time,” so on the day of the Lord once more, “I will change the speech of the peoples to a pure speech.” Proper? Actually, it’s a unified language right here, that’s what’s happening. What was diversified in language at Babel is unified within the redemptive work of God. After which discover what he does in verse 10. “From beyond the rivers of Cush,” proper, simply talked about in Chapter 2:12, “My worshipers, the daughters of my dispersed ones shall bring my offering.” And so, dispersed ones when scattered throughout the face of the earth, what’s happening right here effectively they’re being gathered collectively. Being gathered collectively as an providing, a satisfying aroma unto the Lord, the place they worship Him with one accord, worship in, facet by facet right here. And an important testimony of the United Church worshiping the Lord, even Jew, and Gentile collectively. What Zephaniah is doing is he’s reversing the imagery of the Tower of Babel right here and uniting individuals in pure speech, becoming a member of a individuals of God collectively to worship Him with one accord, on the finish of verse 9. And I wish to train it that means, particularly due to the way in which that very same kind of imagery is used within the New Testomony.

Guthrie: My subsequent query was going to be are you and the way are you going to attach this to Pentecost? As a result of I at all times consider connecting Babel with Pentecost, I’d by no means seen making a cease right here in Zephaniah on the way in which, however I’m not precisely certain how I might join them.

Wooden: There’s truly two stops alongside the way in which. One is in Zephaniah, the opposite is within the e book of Joel. As a result of in Acts Chapter 2 at Pentecost, Peter quotes from Joel Chapter 2, which I truly suppose Joel Chapter 2 quotes from Zephaniah Chapter 3. I suppose in Zephaniah Chapter 3, we’ve this good line, “That all of them may call upon the name of the Lord,” in verse 9, which is a phrase that’s repeated in Joel Chapter 2, which is then quoted by Peter in Acts Chapter 2. So form of two stopping factors as a result of we even have two prophets Joel and Zephaniah which might be trying ahead to a reversal of the Tower of Babel, which is in the end seen in it’s starting achievement on the day of Pentecost the place, you already know, these tongues of fireside come down, they contact them within the higher room, Peter goes out. All of the individuals from all of the nations hear them in their very own tongue. After which Jew and Gentile alike are united collectively in religion and the church grows its religion in Christ there on the day of Pentecost. So, the preliminary gathering collectively and purification of the speech on the very basis of the church. And what I actually love about Zephaniah’s portrait of that is how he continues for example this in verses 11 to 13 as a result of he doesn’t simply cease at an image of purified speech united collectively, however we’re all united collectively on Mt. Zion. Proper? Verse 11, “He removes…” who? “The pridefully exalted ones,” proper, center of verse 11 there. “So that no longer will there be anyone who is haughty on God’s holy mountain.” However discover what he does. “I leave in your midst a people humble and lowly. They shall seek refuge in the name of the Lord. Those who are left in Israel, they shall do injustice and speak no lies, nor shall there be found in their mouth, a deceitful tongue, for they shall graze and lie down, and none shall make them afraid.”

Now a few of these phrases would possibly sound slightly bit acquainted to you. And I say that as a result of there’s just one different determine within the Previous Testomony that shares this distinct imagery of not having a deceitful tongue. And that exact particular person is within the e book of Isaiah, particularly Isaiah 53:9, the place the struggling servant is one who has no lies and who doesn’t have this deceitful tongue. And so actually, I believe…you already know, I’ve learn someplace the place one scholar says Zephaniah has no Messianic prophecies, and I might say sure, he does. And right here it’s, the place he’s, you already know, uniting collectively, the individuals of God and their imagery of not having a deceitful tongue with one that doesn’t have a deceitful tongue who no lie is discovered upon his mouth within the struggling servant. Now, the exact same imagery is utilized in Revelation 14:5, the place the individuals have gone are gathered collectively on this worship service at Mount Zion, they observe the Lamb wherever He goes, and so they haven’t any deceitful speech of their mouths. And, so I believe this can be a actually good image of actually each the primary and second coming of Christ. The primary one, the reversal of Babel at Pentecost as form of a T 1, an preliminary coming, an preliminary undoing of this curse of the autumn at Babel. After which the second, the gathering collectively to Mount Zion, the place these united to Christ have already got a pure speech, however then we’ve a glorified speech and the brand new heavens and the brand new earth. Which then verse 14, offers away to what? Exultant worship, proper seeing single out shouts rejoice, exalt with all of your coronary heart, and it leads out to this exultant worship within the presence of God.

Guthrie: So stunning. Okay, let me attempt one thing on you, Will. So we’re instructing by way of Zephaniah, somebody raises their hand. And so they’re trying right here in Chapter Three for “At that time,” and let’s say the particular person says, “Okay, so what time specifically is that?” So we’re gonna attempt to reply that. So let me take a stab at it and you may critique and enhance upon it. Possibly I might reply, “Well, it’s gonna happen at the Day of the Lord.” And positively, there was a day when God got here within the flesh, and it was a day of judgment. In truth, we see an image of this one who was underneath judgment on this very passage, this one who had no deceit in his mouth, at the same time as He was experiencing our judgment, nevertheless it was additionally a day of salvation, even that very particular day when He was on the cross. And we see how that was achieved as a result of then this begins to be fulfilled at Pentecost, as there may be this nice change within the speech of the peoples, and they can give out the gospel in all of those totally different tongues in Jerusalem. And we hint it by way of the e book of Acts, we see that the phrase of the Lord is continuous to unfold and it’s going and it’s going and that’s the age we’re in now. However there may be but an final, and better, and as you utilize the phrase, extra wonderful achievement of the day of the Lord to return when these items will occur in a superior, ultimate, full means. And we definitely see that after we see that, “They’ll graze and lie down and none shall make them afraid.” That hasn’t occurred but we all know that that’s someplace sooner or later.

Wooden: Yeah, completely. All of that’s nice. We speak about, you already know, the already and the not but, proper? That’s form of the language we use, how already now, on this age, we’ve these nice blessings in union with Christ. And but, we don’t but have them in there even better achievement that’s but to return when He comes once more, the brand new heavens and the brand new earth. And, you already know, for Zephaniah all of that is future, proper? And so we’re again to that telescope once more, that telescopic imaginative and prescient once more, the place these items are form of seen collectively. After which within the New Testomony, we see them form of unfold again out until we get the complete image as we get to the New Testomony occasions. However even right here in Zephaniah, we are able to form of see these issues working collectively, can’t we? The place we see the hope spreading to all of the nations, the worshipers being gathered as an providing from all of the 4 corners of the earth, a time once they shall graze and lie down and none shall make them afraid. And but, at the same time as we proceed studying within the ultimate verses of the e book, it hasn’t occurred but. He costs them a number of occasions, “Fear not let not your hands grow weak.” You understand, the brand new heavens and new earth, you don’t want to fret about your palms rising weak. Immediately we have to fear about that, our palms rising weak on this age. And so the fees that he continues to offer in fearing not, “Fear not O Zion,” verse 16, “Let not your hands grow weak.” And even the guarantees like in verse 18 of Chapter 3, “I will gather those of you who mourn to the festival,” and we’re nonetheless within the age of mourning, proper, we’re not but within the age of the good end-time pageant. And so these kinds of costs, I believe, resonate very deeply for the individuals of God as we’ve these nice blessings by religion, however we don’t but have them by sight, and the brand new heavens and new earth, to make use of Paul’s form of language there.

Guthrie: So what we’re seeing repeatedly in Zephaniah is a few actually grand reversals, isn’t it?

Wooden: We do, yeah.

Guthrie: Since you talked about the one going from creation to de-creation. The place else will we see that image?

Wooden: Creation and de-creation in Chapter 1, after which the reversal of Babel in Zephaniah 3:9 and following, these are the 2 massive ones, proper? These are the large pictures of reversal used within the e book right here, however you see form of some smaller variations of it as effectively when it comes to utilizing different passages. For instance, in Chapter 3:6, the Lord talks about how He had lower off nations, their battlements being in ruins and varied issues like this. I believe that’s a picture of the conquest, particularly with the battle of Jericho, the place battlements had been laid in ruins. After which what’s the outcomes? That they don’t repent effectively, that’s gonna occur to them. So the conquerors turn into the conquered within the judgment of the Lord right here. However when it comes to like form of a redemptive reversal for utilizing that language, moderately than simply reversing different passages, then I believe we see it, particularly in a redemptive sense in verses 19 and 20…

Guthrie: Of Chapter 3?

Wooden: …of Chapter 3, yeah, and even 18 to 20, simply learn 18 a minute in the past, “I will gather those of you who mourn to a festival.” What’s {that a} reversal of? “Weeping and mourning to a great feast and even a celebration, “So that you will no longer suffer reproach behold at that time” now in verse 19. “I will deal with your oppressors, I will save the lame, gather the outcast, I will change their shame into praise and renown in all the earth. At that time, I will bring you in, at that time when I gather you together for I will make you renowned and praised among all the peoples of the earth when I restore your fortunes before your eyes, says the Lord.” Type of a picture of these at the moment who’re oppressed and forsaken by man, but being restored into the presence of God within the new heavens and the brand new earth there.

Guthrie: It looks as if an important alternative to current the gospel from the e book of Zephaniah, when it comes to the anticipation of experiencing that, not getting what we deserve, however there being an important reversal. I need you to return to one thing you stated earlier. You talked about this theme of the proud being humbled and the standard being exalted. So first, persuade me that that may be a most important theme from Zephaniah by displaying me within the textual content, after which inform me what you’d do with it once you’re instructing?

Wooden: So the primary time that we see an abundantly specific reference to that is in Chapter 2:1-3. A name to repentance in Chapter 2, “Gather together, yes gather, O, shameless nation before the decree takes effect,” so earlier than the day of the Lord, after which taking place into verse 3, “Seek the Lord, all you humble of the land to do His just commands, seek righteousness, seek humility, and perhaps you may be hidden on the day of the anger of the Lord.” And so his name to repentance right here, which I believe is what 2:1 is, the decision to assemble to assemble for a shameless or undesirable nation is, “Hey, you know you need to repent and turn to the Lord.” And the way does he do this? He says, “Seek the Lord, all you humble of the land,” after which continues to cost them to hunt righteousness and to hunt humility. Then in Chapter 2:10, satisfaction is talked about explicitly, as soon as once more, the place the nations of Moab and Amon are overturned. Why? In return for his or her satisfaction, proper, due to their prideful remedy of the individuals of Israel. After which once more, in Chapter 3, satisfaction is explicitly talked about as soon as once more, the place in verse 11 he says, “On that day, you shall not be put to shame,” these are the standard, proper? “Because of the deeds by which you have rebelled against me for I will remove from your midst your proudly exultant ones, and you shall no longer be haughty in my holy mountain. But I will leave in your midst a people humble and lowly, and they shall seek their refuge in the name of the Lord.”

And so those that repent, proper, you clearly see right here a transition like they had been as soon as rebellious in opposition to the Lord. However those that repent and search humility within the Lord, these are those who stay who name upon His title. And what does Paul say? “Those who call the name Lord will be saved.” Proper? Those that name upon his title, these are those that stay a individuals humble and lowly, in search of refuge within the Lord. However the pridefully exalted ones, they’re faraway from the holy presence of God and His judgment. So those that sought to exalt themselves, the haughty, the prideful, these are those that God brings down low. And these, seen right here in these specific statements, however the humble who search the Lord are those who he brings up and so they’re going to be those…in 3:14, that rejoice and exult and have this nice pageant within the Lord of reward and worship.

Guthrie:So I assume, Will, that because of this once you’re instructing this, you’re gonna get to the purpose the place you’re gonna name the individuals you’re instructing to humble themselves…

Wooden: Yeah.

Guthrie: …in order that they’ll anticipate an important exultation on that nice day to return. Most likely not on this life, possibly on this life slightly, however slightly now, however definitely not but. However what does that basically imply? I suppose I’m fascinated with myself that I must suppose as a instructor, what particular form of humility is being talked about right here and the way it’s pursued or welcomed or skilled?

Wooden: One of many major ways in which Zephaniah is looking us to humility is to humility in our worship. And so when Zephaniah talks concerning the humble and the lowly, in search of refuge within the title of Lord being left in Israel, and even being on this place the place they graze and lay down and so they’re not afraid, the prophet instantly turns to the results of that in praising and exalting the Lord and in search of to glorify the Lord alone. And so the satisfaction being offered within the e book is absolutely the alternative of that. It’s not in search of to glorify the Lord in all issues however moderately in search of your individual exaltation, in search of your individual glory. And we see these items when it comes to worship actually taking part in out all through the whole lot of the e book the place starting in Chapter 1, as quickly as Judah and Jerusalem are talked about particularly, the difficulty that’s offered is their worship. The remnant of Baal described there, the idolatrous monks together with the monks they bowed down on the roofs to the host of heavens, but they bow right down to the Lord. They swear to the Lord and but swear by Milcom. They’ve turned again from following the Lord and don’t search or inquire of Him. The individuals are unifying idolatrous worship with the worship of the Lord, this kind of syncretism of approaching the Lord in a means that’s improper earlier than Him. And the distinction with that’s approaching the Lord correctly, calling upon His title, so that we may be saved. After which, due to this fact, worshiping Him correctly as He calls us to worship in accordance together with his Phrase.

Guthrie: So it looks as if, Will, that that’s one thing gonna be actually vital for a instructor, that that is a kind of locations the place you learn one thing within the Bible, and we’ve what we predict humility appears to be like like, and possibly it’s simply that I don’t brag concerning the issues that I’ve achieved or proud and we consider it on these phrases. However Zephaniah is speaking a few distinctive form of humility and a singular form of satisfaction. And it looks as if we’ve to ensure we get to the guts of what he’s calling them to.

Wooden: Precisely, and actually emphasizing it on that worship, or asking your self, how will we strategy the Lord correctly in worship? Properly, the reply to that’s how he calls us to worship him in his Phrase, and in no different means. And so coupled along with this concept of humble but heartfelt worship, is the thought of obedience to the Phrase of God. In truth, I believe that is what the prophet actually hammers dwelling when indicting town of Jerusalem. He says, “She listens to no voice, she accepts no correction,” And they also’re prideful, merging collectively in idolatrous worship with the worship of the Lord is, in truth, them not listening to His phrase. And if we tie it again to the historic context of Zephaniah that we’re speaking about slightly bit earlier, what had simply been found? The phrase of the Lord, proper? The phrase of the Lord which were put aside for generations, ignored, in order that it’s even seen as form of an artifact hidden away within the temple. And now right here comes Zephaniah saying, “Listen up.” Proper? “Listen to this word. It’s here that you find how you are to approach the Lord in worship.” And that is particularly vital for Josiah and his work, who was reforming the worship of the individuals of Israel. And so, the exultant, prideful ones listed here are those that are approaching the Lord improperly in worship, like Manasseh, proper, which might have been, you already know, Josiah’s grandfather. And so those that pursue this kind of idolatrous prideful worship are juxtaposed to those that search the Lord, who’re humble of the land, which I believe is an efficient description of Josiah right here, and worship Him in accordance with His phrase. After which going again to Chapter 3:2, the primary strains that I learn a second in the past, “Listens to no voice, they accept no correction.” After which he continues, “She, the city of Jerusalem, does not trust in the Lord and does not draw near to her God.” And so once you don’t hearken to the Lord, and the way He calls you to worship Him in His Phrase, in keeping with the prophet, you’re not trusting in God, and also you’re not drawing close to to Him.

Guthrie: Properly, this isn’t actually an historic problem, although, isn’t it, Will?

Wooden: No.

Guthrie: I imply, give it some thought…I imply, once I take into consideration most conversations we’ve about…and I’ll simply put in quotes, my little air quotes right here “worship.” I can image somebody saying, “Well, I just couldn’t worship today, you know, I didn’t like the worship today,” that form of factor, as if we’re the arbiters of what makes good worship. So I suppose I’m considering as you’re speaking about this, that in instructing by way of the e book of Zephaniah, it presents the instructor with a chance to speak about the way in which God does need to be worshipped and nearly inverting our fashionable mindset of, “I get to worship how I choose,” moderately than was, “I pleased with the worship? Was God pleased with my worship based on the way he’s called us to worship?”

Wooden: Assume the final particular person you talked to that was in search of a church, what did they are saying? Virtually inevitably that when, you already know, they’re going round like, “Well, the worship wasn’t the way I like it,” similar to you had been saying. However the query they need to be asking is, “Is this the worship that God prescribes in his Word?” And once they do this the whole lot is totally reoriented as a result of the standard mode of questioning this kind of church procuring mentality, it’s a totally self-centered mode of worship, which isn’t worshiping the Lord in any respect, that’s worshiping your self. It’s all about what do I need? I would like, this, and if you would like a rock band, some kind of factor, like that. However the focus of true worship all through all the Bible is at all times Godward. It’s at all times in search of to glorify Him and Him alone. And that is actually what Zephaniah portrays fairly clearly, you already know, you rejoice, you exalt with all of your coronary heart. Properly, who’re you rejoicing and exalting? Properly, the Lord. We’ve learn verse 14 a number of occasions, or verse 15, I believe offers us three actually good causes for this worship. The primary one, verse 15, the primary line there, “The Lord has taken away the judgments against you.”

Guthrie: Which chapter are you in?

Wooden: Chapter 3:15. So Chapter 3:14, is that shouting, exalting rejoicing within the Lord. After which I believe verse 15 offers us three causes. The primary one being the Lord has taken away our judgments, proper? He’s not simply our Lord, He’s our Lord who saves, who redeems sinners, one thing you already know distinctive to Christians that we’d like the salvation of the Lord. He has cleared away your enemies. The pridefully exultant ones who lead on this idolatrous worship are performed away with on the day of the Lord. After which the climactic one, the king of Israel, the Lord is in your midst. Proper? He redeems us, He clears away those that oppose His individuals, and what He offers us is Himself, and in search of to glorify and reward the Lord on this everlasting communion bond that we’ve with Him. Which by the way in which, that line proper there, “The king of Israel, the Lord,” is essentially the most usually cited line from the e book of Zephaniah, within the New Testomony, at all times utilized to Christ.

Guthrie: What a good looking alternative to get to Christ in our instructing. We don’t have a lot time left, Will, however I puzzled when you would assist us with a few pictures that we see in right here. We do not forget that you’re working in your doctorate of Previous Testomony utilized in Zephaniah, and I ponder if that helps with a few verses. I’m trying in Chapter 1:8-9, and it says, “On the day of the Lord sacrifice, I will punish the officials and the king sons and all who array themselves in foreign attire.” So we’d instantly suppose, “What’s the problem with that?” After which the subsequent verse says, “On that day, I will punish everyone who leaps over the threshold.” And as soon as once more, we form of marvel, “What’s wrong with that?” So does possibly a few of that research you’ve performed in how the Previous Testomony is utilizing Zephaniah assist us with this?

Wooden: It does as a result of it supplies the reply of what’s going on right here.

Guthrie: Glorious.

Wooden: So I suppose as we’re, you already know, considering to contemplate that just a bit bit, the primary cost can be when you’re getting ready to show Zephaniah can be to learn over it repeatedly and actually chew on all the varied components of it, proper? Don’t give it a skim after which go do it. Don’t attempt to soar to some utility or one thing like that, however actually dig into the passage and possibly utilizing a cross-reference Bible, as a result of these may be very useful. It gained’t have the whole lot in it, nevertheless it’ll have one thing and you may, you already know, use these to form of orient a few of these issues. And so, these are actually useful right here for these, and it’s as a result of it’s different passages within the Previous Testomony that reply for us what’s happening right here. And so the primary one, being wearing international apparel. Properly, what that’s not about is Zephaniah saying, “Come on guys, you’re not wearing your, I guess Saturday best to worship,” again then going to worship on the Sabbath day. However actually, if we take into consideration how does clothes operate within the Bible, quite a few issues start to come out at us. And when you’re studying in Exodus and Leviticus, there are a variety of legal guidelines given to the individuals of Israel regarding gown and particularly to the workplace of the priesthood. And so, the priesthood are given these divine clothes, these clothes, by the way in which, that they’re to put on into the procession of worship main the individuals of God there and going again…

Guthrie: Once we research Exodus, you already know, we come up chapter after chapter concerning the monks’ clothes, and also you get the concept God is fairly explicit about what his monks put on to characterize Him to the individuals and characterize the individuals to Him within the temple.

Wooden: Yeah. And so right here as an alternative of being dressed within the method that God is looking His monks to be dressed, they gown themselves within the clothes of foreigners, within the clothes of international monks. And, in truth, the monks of Baal in 2 Kings, Chapter 10, are primarily recognized by their clothes. And so, dressing in international apparel right here, it’s not that it’s good to go to worship carrying a tie or else, you already know, Zephaniah is gonna come and get you, nevertheless it’s actually about approaching the Lord how He calls you to strategy him. If you consider how clothes works even way back to Genesis Chapter 3, you already know, earlier than the autumn in Genesis Chapter 2 man is seen as bare and never ashamed. However that nakedness is absolutely trying ahead to an additional clothes in righteousness if they might not have partaken from the tree of data of fine and evil then they might have been confirmed within the righteousness of the Lord. However as they eat from that tree, that nakedness is not unashamed, however in disgrace. And they also search to then cowl over their disgrace, with these clothes of fig leaves, proper, in Genesis Chapter 3. After which the Lord comes, He confronts Adam and Eve for his or her sins, and slightly bit later in Genesis 3, He does one thing very attention-grabbing, the place what the Lord does is he devests them, he takes off they’re self-clad clothes of fig leaves and he reclothes them with clothes of pores and skin. And so that you see, that there’s this clothes that the Lord is offering is definitely a picture of redemption, and bringing Adam and Eve who had simply sinned again into His presence, restoring them to a bond of union with God. However right here what we see is the alternative. These individuals are taking off the God-given clothes and re-clothing themselves in international apparel. So it’d be as if Adam and Eve took off the clothes God supplied and re-clothed themselves with these fig leaves. That’s what’s happening right here. After which we see one thing related with their worship in verse 9. “On that day, I will punish everyone who leaps over the threshold and those who fill their Lord’s house with violence and with fraud.” Properly, if we’re taking a look at this one, I do know a variety of cross-reference Bibles could have a reference right here to 1 Samuel, Chapter 5. And in 1st Samuel, Chapter 5, we’ve the story of the ark being set and the Temple of Dagon on there.

Guthrie: It’s truly a comic story isn’t it?

Wooden: It’s.

Guthrie: The temple of Dagon.

Wooden: So, you already know, simply to recap what occurs there, you already know, the Ark is captured in battle, it’s taken over, it’s put into the temple of Dagon. After which the form of the climax of that narrative is the pinnacle of Dagon, the idol statue, is chopped off and it lands on the edge of the temple earlier than the Ark of the Lord, nearly prefer it’s bowing down earlier than the Ark. Properly, in fact, the individuals then rapidly get the Ark out of the temple to offer it again to Israel, however, in 1 Samuel 5:5, that really sparks a development of worship among the many Dagon priesthood, the place each time they enter into the temple, what do they do? They soar over the edge that Dagon’s head had simply fallen over onto, proper? They don’t wanna contact the place the place Dagon was. And so for right here, for the monks in Israel to do the identical factor what they’re doing is they’re leaping over the edge is the temple of the Lord and approaching God similar to the idolatrous nation would have approached Dagon. Proper? They’re filling the temple with false worship, a spot that was meant to be for the purified worship of the Lord, proper, worshiping the Lord in holiness and in reality. Understanding the background of those phrases, which, by and enormous, when you simply decelerate and actually begin fascinated with what would possibly this imply in its broader biblical context? Then what appears very international in your form of preliminary learn by way of it begins to make a variety of sense.

Guthrie: Properly, why don’t we shut this fashion, Will. Let’s say we’ve performed the work, we slowed down and we listened, and we did our greatest to work our means by way of the e book of Zephaniah, by way of coping with a sin that’s offered, the judgment that’s promised, in addition to the hope and deliverance that’s declared, particularly in Chapter 3, what will we hope that the affect of getting studied Zephaniah with us, however what will we hope the affect could have been on them?

Wooden: I believe because the e book has such a sturdy deal with worship, that they might have a renewed vigor to exalt the Lord alone, and a renewed vigor to do it solely in accordance with how He calls them to do it. So the primary one is a zeal for correct worship. I believe that’s actually what Zephaniah is getting at here’s a zeal for correct worship. And a zeal for correct worship has with it a name to obedience to the Lord in each facet of your life, even calling upon the title of the Lord.

Guthrie: Sure, not simply on the worship service on Sunday. We’re not gonna confine worship solely to that, are we?

Wooden: The worshiper must have this life of religion. And in the event that they’re not dwelling that life of religion, then the worship on Sunday is a convincing gong. It impacts the whole lot of your life as you’re dwelling earlier than the presence of God. The decision to worship actually impacts the whole lot. It actually orients your total life, in a heavenward and heaven-fed focus. The place glorifying God on Sunday impacts the whole lot you’re doing on work on Monday. you’re not going to go and slander your coworker as a result of you already know that’s not righteous earlier than the sight of the Lord and that may taint not solely your witness but additionally your individual character and the way you had been to be one to testify to the issues of these. So the very first thing is focusing in on worship. The second factor I believe it teaches us to not be bashful about judgment. Chapter 1:2 all the way in which to Chapter 3:Eight is simply judgment, judgment, judgment, judgment, judgment, judgement, judgement.

Guthrie: In every single place you look.

Wooden: And when you go into a variety of church buildings lately, you don’t hear so much about judgment. You hear so much about salvation, you hear little or no about judgment. And so it calls us to deal with judgment as a profound actuality and due to this fact to deal with our sins significantly. Judgment is not only some summary factor that occurs to others on the market, it occurs in opposition to each particular person who rebelled in opposition to the Lord. And so sin must be handled significantly. Even sins of complacency and never caring about our non secular progress and issues like that. In truth, Zephaniah has one thing to say about that. “Those who are complacent in our hearts are those who are punished on this day,” in Zephaniah Chapter 1:12. And so, this presentation of judgment right here, it ought to inform us to deal with our sin significantly, and it ought to shock us out of our non secular complacency. And which if we’re sincere with ourselves, it’s fairly straightforward to get into, isn’t it?

Guthrie: Completely.

Wooden: We get into the routine, we simply form of skate on by way of moderately than being very purposeful and dwelling our lives earlier than the Lord. And I additionally suppose it supplies us with a heavenly-mindedness that orients each facet of our lives. One of many most important, I believe, sensible factors of all the Bible is that we dwell with a heaven-looking focus. And if we’re trying in Zephaniah Chapter 3:9-20, that’s actually the main target of all of it. There are statements about, you already know, advantages that we obtain at the moment, however the focus of the revenue on these Chapters is the brand new heavens and new earth. That’s the place we achieve the fullness of all of our advantages that we’ve in Christ. That’s the place those that mourn at the moment are gathered to the pageant of the Lord, even that nice wedding ceremony feast with the Lamb. And so I believe it teaches us to actually have that heavenward, heaven-minded focus, in the whole lot that we do at the moment. You understand, similar to what you already know, Paul says in Colossians, Chapter 3, to hunt issues which might be above not issues which might be on the earth. And so it orientates us to the place we search after the Lord who’s in heaven, in each facet of our lives. One of many issues that I say so much each in preaching and in lessons, there’s this phrase that has gone all through Christianity, you already know, “Don’t be so heavenly-minded, you’re no earthly good.” I believe the Bible teaches the alternative, doesn’t it? You understand, you have to be radically heavenly-minded when you’re gonna be of any earthly good in any respect. As a result of when you’re not heavenly minded, what’s gonna occur once you’re simply distraught and mourning and weeping at the moment? You’re gonna lose the picture of that day when the Lord will wipe each tear from our eyes and produce us to that pageant of the Lamb. We have to be heaven-fed if we’re going to be any earthly good at the moment as a result of that’s the place our hope is to be within the presence of God within the new heavens and the brand new earth, secured by Christ as He got here as He bore these very judgments for us in order that we sick sinners may be introduced into the presence of Holy God and worship Him forevermore.

Guthrie: What an important place to finish. Thanks a lot, Will. Thanks for being prepared to assist us train the Bible.

Wooden: Yeah, thanks for having me, I loved it.

Guthrie: You’ve been listening to “Help Me Teach the Bible” with Nancy Guthrie, a manufacturing of The Gospel Coalition sponsored by Crossway. Crossway is the not-for-profit writer of the ESV Bible Christian books and tracks. Be taught extra about Crossways gospel-centered sources @crossway.org.

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